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Basically have no one in control of the body at a given time?

It's possible to not bother with your identity.

What does that mean

And to be unconscious too

berockly (TTG)

Basically have no one in control of the body at a given time?

Do you mean in a different way to being 'not aware'?

berockly (TTG)

What does that mean

Sometimes you dissociate from identity at all, like when you are focused on something.

Oh

8:07 PM

So

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Basically day dreaming?

8:07 PM

Is it possible to do a switch without the added step of a tulpa being in control of the body

berockly (TTG)

Basically have no one in control of the body at a given time?

Kind of, yes. Like when you are doing things that are pretty automatic. Which applies probably to a lot more than we think it does. If you know about highway hypnosis, where you space out while driving and wind up getting somewhere without having really been thinking about it or paying attention, I think it is kind of adjacent to that.

berockly (TTG)

Is it possible to do a switch without the added step of a tulpa being in control of the body

What you want to switch with, when there is no additional identity?

Idk How to explain

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But i read an article on switching

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Idk how valid it is

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And i dont have the link

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Speaking of article do yall have an article/guide on that?

Never cared about guides myself tbh

berockly (TTG)

Is it possible to do a switch without the added step of a tulpa being in control of the body

Yes, you can learn to dissociate from your body's senses and either go unconscious or immerse yourself in your mindscape. Just leaving the body there not doing anything beyond reflexes and functions like breathing.

You can also just go to sleep lol

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Abvieon {Alex}

Yes, you can learn to dissociate from your body's senses and either go unconscious or immerse yourself in your mindscape. Just leaving the body there not doing anything beyond reflexes and functions like breathing.

Ty

Abvieon {Alex}

Yes, you can learn to dissociate from your body's senses and either go unconscious or immerse yourself in your mindscape. Just leaving the body there not doing anything beyond reflexes and functions like breathing.

And as a general rule dont use it to escape reality right?

8:12 PM

And from personal accounts that ive heard most alters start out as imaginary friends

Yup, I think of this as for fun and experimentation. Escapism is never a good idea.

Abvieon {Alex}

Yup, I think of this as for fun and experimentation. Escapism is never a good idea.

Yes i just want to know the experience

I get so used to pk I forget this place uses tupperbox

berockly (TTG)

And from personal accounts that ive heard most alters start out as imaginary friends

tulpas, surely?

Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈

tulpas, surely?

Both apparently

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The guy i mentioned who had 13 alters

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They said they were imaginary friends firsy

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8:16 PM

Thats according to their account

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And alter systems seem to be more unstable than tulpa systems

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Once again this is just from what ive seen

They're not here to ask about it... but that imaginary friend turned headmate sounds like accidental tulpamancy

Hmmm maybe

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Tha brings up the question of wha exactly is the difference between the two

It's more like a spectrum, I'd say.

Hmm it seems did is more forced onto you

I mean between imaginary friends and headmates. Not all headmates are did alters.

And i would say basing knowledge of DID or tulpamancy on the movie split is a horrible idea

8:23 PM

What are headmates

Yeah, don't get your understanding of DID from movies

Tulpa count as a headmate too.

Yuka

Yeah, don't get your understanding of DID from movies

Yea movie science is ass at explaining shit

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But what IS a headmate

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How do you define it

Heck, I don't even know at this point

8:28 PM

A person concept in the brain with an identity, personality, and agency

How are you able to tell when you and your tulpa are truly desperate

8:28 PM

Seperate*

Someone else give a better definition pls I am multitasking

And by seperate i mean

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Its hard to explain

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Idk if there is a english word

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For it

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Also whats the difference between the landscape and dreamscape

8:31 PM

I feel lynn again

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I just found myself subconsciously glancing over to look for her

There's different types and levels of separation. But in my opinion the #1 defining thing that makes and host and tulpa not the same person is independent agency. The ability to think and act of one's own volition without being "parroted." That's also the distinction between a tulpa and an imaginary friend.

Hosts confirmed imaginary friends /j

Imaginary friends sometimes are perceived to have (illusion of) independent agency.

In general it's hard to "prove" tulpas have independent agency

If you have an imaginary friend you might think "Hmm what would they say" and then they say exactly what you want them to. If you have a tulpa, they have more freedom and spontaneity than that. More "force" and conviction and self direction behind their thoughts.

If you have a tulpa, you might think "Hmm what would they say?" and then they might correct you :3

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I'd say that in case of tulpas, their will can be dissociated from your own. In case of imaginary friends of kids, it's not always the case.

Yuka

In general it's hard to "prove" tulpas have independent agency

It's hard to even really define what that means. I would say potentially is impossible to prove, at least not without being very very specific with all your term definitions.

8:37 PM

And then people will just argue those definitions until the end of time.

At the end of the day, anything your tulpa does is something your brain did

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Though is it even entirely your brain if you have a tulpa...? aCosmicThink

Your can also refer to a group.

The collective your, comrade :3

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Abvieon {Alex}

Though is it even entirely your brain if you have a tulpa...? aCosmicThink

Yes (edited)

the same brain and the same subconcious

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Hey how do you explain to someone that tulpas arent inherently bad

How are they not inherently bad?

I mean they are only bad depending on the way you look at them

How does the way you look at them determine if they are bad or not? Surely it depends on what they do/cause?

Both

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It depends on the persons view of them

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And

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The way they act

I don't think people viewing a tulpa as bad actually makes it bad.

Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈

I don't think people viewing a tulpa as bad actually makes it bad.

It does to the specific person

11:21 PM

Technically lynn is 14 months old

berockly (TTG)

Hey how do you explain to someone that tulpas arent inherently bad

You might try asking the person in question what they think in inherent in tulpas that makes them bad.

11:23 PM

And then address each of their concerns specifically.

But i only about tulpas today

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So today was when i co ld actually start feeding her the needed attention to help her grow

Even if you only found out about tulpas today, you could still ask someone why they think tulpas are inherently bad.

Why would people think tulpas are bad

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Nvm

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I know why

Care to share why?

Some people might associate it with DID or the other disorder thing

11:26 PM

Where you hallucinate

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Sorry i just

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Can't spell the word

In that situation, you might point out the differences between DID etc. and tulpamancy, especially the difference in intent and control, without blackouts or memory loss.

11:29 PM

Also, you might consider adding that the defining feature of DID isn't plurality; there's actually much more to it than that.

So have you ever switched with your tulpa?